So far, how does The Catcher in the Rye compare with other coming-of-age novels? Is it more realistic? More relevant to today's teenager? Why? Use examples from your past reading (including The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, The Perks of Being a Wallflower, Go Ask Alice, The Outsiders, etc.). What is similar about all books in the coming-of-age genre?
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The Catcher In The Rye Can Be Compared With Many Coming-Of-Age Novels. It Compares With The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn Because Both Huck And Holden Are Around The Same Age. The Both Have A Disregard For Others And Their Opinons. Both Books Are Written In First Person, And Both Are Written In Colloquiol Language. The Biggest Similarity I See In All Books Of The Coming-Of-Age Genre Is The Nobody Understands Me Subject. Most Teengagers Seem To Think In That Mindstate. Yes, This Book Does Seem More Realistic To Me Becuase It Can Be Related To More Easily. It Is More Relevant To Today's Teenager Because It Deals With Problems That Alot Of Teenagers Today Deal With, Such As, Lying And Feeling As If They Are An Outcast.
ReplyDeleteCatcher in the Rye can be compared by many coming-of-age novels because of how Salinger portrays his narrator in the story. Mark Twain's The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is a coming-of-age novel because of how kids grow up and become adults by kids performing and becomming a part of adult situations.
ReplyDeleteboth Twain's and Salinger's novel are written in first-person perspective. Both are clear examples of coming-of-age novels by how their narrators depend on themselves throughout the novel and how their thought is spoken to the readers.
Salinger's novel is a more realistic novel by how the narrator speaks so vividly and how he describe other characters. Catcher in the Rye is also realistic by how teenagers today act and think just like Holden.
Coming-of-age novels will stay in literature for the readers because many readers can relate coming-of-age novels to present and past times. Many teenagers think and act like Holden today, many children act like adults today like, Huckleberry Finn, teenage gangs are made today like in, The Outsider, and many teenagers don't really care about lives like in, Go ask Alice.
Coming-of-age novels can always be related to a certain time.
The Catcher in the Rye compares well to other coming-of-age novels. In The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Huck exhibits some similar qualities to Holden. Huck and Holden are about the same age, they both smoke, and they have a blanton disregard for the rules of society and the feelings of the people in it. Both characters use colloquialisms and profane language. Huck and Holden differ in their goals as time progresses. Huck wants to remain juvenile and “innocent” for the rest of his life, were Holden cannot seem to grow up fast enough.
ReplyDeleteThe Catcher in the Rye translates better into today’s society because of the modern diction that Salinger uses. As well, it is more relevant to today’s teenager than Huck Finn. The problems that Holden faces are more in touch with a modern audience than those in Huck Finn.
The Catcher and the Rye can be compared with other coming-of-age novels because many of them involve kids that are the same age. It can compare with The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn not only for this reason, but also because they both use colloquial language and are written from 1st person. These are also similarities many coming-of-age novels share with eachother. I believe this book is more realistic because many teenagers can relate to many of the problems Holden is going through. In The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Huck goes through tough things such as dealing with racism and the desire to be free, which teenagers can realte to somewhat but not as much as the problems Holden deals with in the Catcher and the Rye. Holden deals with difficulty in school, lying, and feeling like an outcast from others which also creates the subject of "Nobody Understands Me". This is something that many teenagers deal with now which makes it more relevent to teenagers today.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the Catcher in the Rye can compare to many coming of age novels. Yes, the book is realistic in a way that an outcast at a college would live his life. The Catcher in the Rye is simliar to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, because of how the main characters, Holden and Huck< treat their elder. Both of them show them respect when neccessary, but mostly think of something different outside the conversation. They both also have a sense that they don't belong or no one understands them. They feel as if they must go away and find a place where the people their meet their standards. All the coming on age novels share a similar character with a similar problem. They feel left out or something must change in order for something to be right.
ReplyDeleteThe Catcher in the Rye compares to the coming of age novels because they use the same terms and the same way of communicating with fellow classmates.This book is more realistic because it shows the attitude that people had when they were rebellious to their parents. It is similar to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn because it showed the separation of people and the way people thought of things morally. Huck Finn also spoke in a dialect. Slang words were used and it helped with giving the time zone of the book. It also shows how people live by the rules of the society.
ReplyDeleteThe Catcher in the Rye compares to the coming of age novels because they each shows the rebellion that the people went through to live in the society that were against morals. The coming of age books are relevant to teens today because both The Catcher in the Rye and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn shows that the characters wants to be free,independent, and also the idea of fitting in with the people around them.
ReplyDeleteThe similarity between all coming-of-age stories is that the readers view the world through a teenager’s perspective. Huck Finn and The Catcher in the Rye show the protagonist involving himself in an adventure while undergoing a personal development as a human being.
ReplyDeleteHuck’s sense of morality changes once he becomes friends with Jim and no longer follows the cruel rules of his racist society. What we can assume from Holden so far is that he will possibly “find himself” by the novel’s end.
Holden’s turmoil is that he quickly points his finger toward everyone else’s faults, but never his own. He doesn’t favor the greedy and “phony” society he lives in and has problems relating to people his own age.
Holden tries to act older, yet he seems so immature. He’s caught between a child’s world and an adult’s and hasn’t found a place where he belongs.
The Catcher in the Rye compares to The Perks of Being a Wallflower and Go Ask Alice in the way the novels show a more honest look at what typical teenagers face on a daily basis. Because of this, the novels are more realistic in representing the teenage world.
I agree with Faith when she said that "it shows the attitude that people had when they were rebellious to their parents". In the coming-of-age novels, you are able to see how these characters act and teenagers are able to relate to them because many of them act the same way.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Phil when he said "the Catcher in the Rye translates better into today’s society because of the modern diction that Salinger uses". This is true because teenagers today are able to understand what Salinger is saying in The Catcher in the Rye better than Twain in Huck Finn. Therefore they are able to relate to the book.
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ReplyDeleteThe Catcher in the Rye compares with other coming-of-age novels by making the situations of the story more realistic and more relevant to today's teenagers. For example, Holden tries to act more mature in his life and uses slang words in order to express his inner feelings about someone like Mr. Spencer. This book also relates to The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn because both Huck and Holden start out as an immature person, but as their story progresses, they begin to see the responsibilities and struggles in which they have to commit themselves into in order to become a more mature and responsible person.
ReplyDeleteI agree with what Josh said about how people don't understand Holden and Huck. The characters feel as if they are held captive in their life and that the best solution of gaining the freedom that they wanted is simply just running away from their problems. I also agree that the characters also feel isolated and that they want to fit in with the party in their stories.
ReplyDeleteMany coming-of-age novels have similarities. They all have narrators or protagonists who are young and they usually rebel against the authorities. They are considered the "outcast" and encounter many problems. Although, the difference between other novels and The Catcher in the Rye is that this book is set in a more recent time. It is easier for the reader and teenagers to relate to the problems characters experience. I wouldn't say it's more realistic because mostly all coming-of-age novels go through problems that truly happen in real life. But, unlike novels such as Huck Finn, this book shows more relevant issues such as getting expelled.
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I agree with Phil -"blanton disregard for the rules of society and the feelings of the people in it." Both Holden and Huck both don't care about their actions and how they effect the people around them nor do they bother to follow the rules. They live under their own set of rules and don't care if they get in trouble for it.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Faith- "shows that the characters wants to be free,independent, and also the idea of fitting in with the people around them." Both books, Huck Finn and Holden work to achieve to be independent and fit in at the same time. They want a sense of freedom from authority and society.
-Niki Flores
Yes, it can be compared to other coming-of-age novels like Huck Finn. Catcher in the Rye and Huck Finn have there similarities. Huck and Holden both curse constantly. They both smoke. people don't seem to understand Holden and Huck. There differences Huck wants freedom and Holden doesn't care about school or life in general.
ReplyDeleteA lot of the coming-of-age books are mostly guys. The stories are about young gentlemen.
Catcher in the Rye seems to be more realistic. Its my favorite! Catcher in the Rye is written as if your talking. This makes it easier and faster to read.
-Ashley R.
I agree with Amanda because Holden does seem to be caught between a child's world and an adult's world because he is very immature. Holden acts as if he is old enough to drink, smoke, it is like if the other people do it then he can do them too.
ReplyDeleteHe tries to avoid seeing his parents because he doesn't like conflict between people. I think Holden just don't like to be confronted by an adult figure. Based on the way Holden acts in the book, it is similar to the way teenagers act today. Teenagers don't like to be confronted and they like to show society they they too can "fit in".
-Faith H.
The Cather in the Rye and The Adventures of Huck Finn are both coming to age novels. Both novels display the main character as being outcast compared to society. Coming to age novels deal with adolescents and their perspective to society and morals.
ReplyDeleteThe Catcher in the Rye is quite realistic. Many teenagers can relate with this novel compared to Huck Finn. Holden, the main character in The Catcher in the Rye is a teenagers who happens to be sarcastic and in his own world, like many young teens are. I am not saying all teenagers are like Holden, especially with his lack of respect but we all have a little Holden in us. We all live in our own world and want to know where we belong.
All coming to age novels deal with young characters who try to deal with life on their own. Coming to age novels have a theme of self discovery.
-Alexis M.
I agree with Niki on her opinion that, "[The Catcher in the Rye] shows more relevant issues, such as getting expelled."
ReplyDeleteHuck Finn discussed bigger issues, like human morality and racism. Although teenagers do face those issues, they also face problems with school, family members and peers on a more daily basis.
Holden's troubles are also set in a more modern time frame, which makes his problems more realistic to readers like us today.
From my view, the similarity between Catcher in the Rye, The Outsiders, and Huck Finn is the protagonist acts like they have the hardest life. They complain about so much, and have a view on everything (mainly negative). These are young boys/ young men, facing problems and trying to get past them. They feel as if they are by themselves, (with the exception of friends) and they live a lonely world. They don't have adult figures to look up to.
ReplyDeleteCatcher in the rye seems more realistic because it’s easier to relate with. (No teen can relate to helping a runaway slave). Holden goes through problems others teens have gone through. Some teens might see their image in Holden.
I agree with Faith and Niki about the rebellious factor. These boys are outcast, and feel the need to rebel.
ReplyDeleteAlso, agree with Niki about Catcher in the Rye is easiest to relate with. Holden goes through "more relevant issues such as getting expelled".
Catcher in the Rye and other coming-of-age novels all tell a story through a teenager's or a young child's point of view. In Catcher in the Rye, Holden is a character the most teenagers can relate with in the story. Holden thinks that he is right or that everyone is fakes. The teenagers today think that their peers are sometimes fakes. Teenagers even lie sometimes, too just like Holden. The book is more realistic than most coming-of-age books because more teenagers can say, "Hey I know what that character is talking about" or they can say, "I do that sometimes". The book actually seems like it could have been written by an actual teenager.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Josh and Amanda. I agree with what Josh said about how Holden and Huck are alike because of the way that they treat their elders. They do treat them with respect Amanda on what she said about how both characters Holden and Huck try to deal with adult situations. They are young adults dealing with adult situations. Which most teenagers today deal with in real life and that is what makes these stories realistic.
ReplyDeleteThe catcher in the rye is more realistic in novels that are coming of age huck finn was more like an adventurous life, yet both characters are somewhat similar because they act in a rebellious way.
ReplyDeleteThe Holden charecter from our novel is not very reminiscent of todays teenager but just from common knowledge i can see how holden is like the bastard, trouble causing, delinquent kid that he is. Holden is differnt on so many levels then Huck that in my opinion a comparrsion can not be made only that they both seem to find trouble. The teenage perspective in these books are very similair along with all teenage books meaning that the teenager is lost or confused and trying to find themsleves while embarking on a great journey and find who they are on there journey
ReplyDeleteI agree with Amanda when she said, "The similarity between all coming-of-age stories is that the readers view the world through a teenager’s perspective." Teenagers have their own "view of the world." They see it differently than what other, more mature adults may see it.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Faith when she said, "The Catcher in the Rye compares to the coming of age novels because they each shows the rebellion that the people went through to live in the society that were against morals." All teenagers rebel at one point of time in their life when they do not agree with something.
This book has a lot of books that it could be compare to. I could easily compare this book to the previous novel we read which is, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Both Huck and Holden show there charracter to be misunderstood by others. They tempt to think that they have no one that understands them or anyone that would ever agree to what they think it's right. Catcher in the Rye is more realistic then the other novel. I personally disagree with Holden alot because he mentions how other people are "phony". When to me he is the phony one because at some points he makes no sence in what he is trying to prove.
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Coming of age stories have many things in common. Almost all coming of age stories have the main character as the narrator. In The Catcher and the Rye and Huck Finn they both dislike adults. Holden thinks that adults are phony so he doesn’t like them and Huck thinks that adults don’t understand his way of living. He thinks that being civilized is not the way to live. Because coming of age stories are narrated by the main character the audience only gets to see and understand their way of living. The Main characters in coming of age stories think that their way is the best way to do something and won’t accept any other way.
ReplyDeleteI think that Catcher and the Rye is more realistic than Huck Finn because Holden has been a teenager for a while. So the audience can relate to his story better than Huck Finn's. Obviously its easier because Huck Finn took place over 100 years ago. Many things have changed then. Huck is only 13, his first year of being a teenager. He has not yet experienced the problems that Holden has encountered.
-Andy M.
I agree with Andy when he said that Catcher in the Rye was more of a realistic novel. I agree with him because we can relate more to the situations that take place in the novel.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jessica when she said, "...to me Holden is the phony one..."
ReplyDeleteHolden points out how fake everyone else is, but clearly, he is just as fake as the people he talks about.
All coming of age books will have something in common. The teenage characters tend to have the same view, that "Nobody understands me." Since they have this attitude then tend to act out with other people. An example in "Catcher in the Rye" would be Holden's continuously getting kicked out of school. In The Adventure of "Huckleberry Finn" Huck tends to tell tall tales.
ReplyDeleteHolden also continues to change his age during the book. Huck exaggerates his adventures to get what he wants or attention.
Most teens can relate somewhat to what the teenage character goes through or thinks. It's easy to do so when the story is getting told from the teen character.
I agree with what Niki said about Catcher in the Rye is easier to relate to on account of "more relevant issues such as getting expelled". Teens do not tend to have to fight with discrimination in the present.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Natalie on her view that the teenage characters tend to have a negative view on things.
ReplyDeleteI would say it does comapre to upcoming novels because it show a way of life where a kid wants to be a grown upand want to live his own life. it can also be compard to Huckleberry because Huck Finn decided to leave on his own and try to act like a grownup and live his own life. Where Holden sees himself as a older chracter and thinks that he is fully grown. The only differnce would be that Holden doesnt get along with to many people where Huckfinn might not either but he helps people with their promblems such as Jim.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jose because Holden don't help people. he is more the type of person that want to do things his way and the type of person that don't care about anyone. Huck was a generous person and he helped save Jim's life. It relates to teenagers now because they might help some people, but they won't receive help. I believe that when teenagers do that, it is to make them feel like they are and adult. Like they can do things for their selves.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with everything Phil said. In Catcher in the Rye and Huck Finn both main characters are teenagers and have much in common.
ReplyDeleteI also have to agree with Christine. All coming of-age novels have to do with teens not being understood by society. Yes, both Holden and Huck Finn lie constantly. Huck is always telling tall tales and Holden keeps changing his age.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Natalie when it comes to the narrator acting as if they have the hardest life. In Coming to Age novels it feels like the narrator feels no one on the face of the earth can relate to him/her. Natalie made it a point to state that teenagers have a negative attitude on situations and it is true,Holden is a a great example of negative attitude.
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I agree with Natalie when it comes to the narrator acting as if they have the hardest life. In Coming to Age novels it feels like the narrator feels no one on the face of the earth can relate to him/her. Natalie made it a point to state that teenagers have a negative attitude on situations and it is true,Holden is a a great example of negative attitude.
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I agree with Faith to a point about rebelious teenagers. Teenagers rebel usually when they disagree with other`s views but not in Holdens case. Holden has all the wrong morals hes fighting for.
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I aswell agree with faith. She is very correct in saying that they are rebelliuos teenagers. Teenagers always think what they are doing is right no matter if in actualltity it is right or is wrong. Natlie has a very good point aswell saying that the narrator of the story makes it seem that there lifes are even harder.
ReplyDeleteThe Catcher in the Rye is similar to otehr coming of age novels because most of the main characters most of the time are the narrators. For example, Huck Finn and Catcher in the Rye are similar because both of the main characters are the narrators and both feel like no one understands them. The Catcher in the Rye is more realistic than other coming of age novels because there are more situations that would occur in real life. The teenagers today can relate to more of the situations because most teens are either experiencing it or have experienced it already.
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